Yesterday, Katy and I met up in the Food Lion parking lot, I hopped into her car, and we drove to Washington D C. In DC, there was a Mormon Stories, Circling the Wagons event. This is the second one ever, and the premise is to help build understanding between the conventional LDS church and those in the LGTBQ family.
I need to back up a little and talk about why I was there. Being able to think about it over the past two days has been really incredible. I spoke a little of it for those in attendance yesterday, but it was emotional and hard. Being able to choose my words, change them until they match my experience, and really try to construct them is important to me.
I grew up in Kansas and Missouri- I thought being gay was just made up.
In college, I realized that there were girls kissing other girls and I thought- that is because there aren't any boys around. (All-girls school).
In graduate school, I realized that being gay was, in fact, very real and some of the kindest, most brilliant people I knew were gay. That was especially true for my dear friend, John and his electric, handsome, well-spoken boyfriend Marc. John and Marc changed me. Especially John, because he was just so wonderful. He is still! He taught me much. When his Marc got sick, and eventually died, I thought a little part of my heart had too. It was just not fair. Not right. What was amazing, though, is the love and support they got. This is recent in our evolution as humans, some never were able to know this kind of understanding before death.
One day, I went out, and got a sticker from a group on grounds, and placed that sticker on the windows to our lab- it was a blue background, with a yellow equal sign. Someone asked me "what are we promoting in the lab with that sticker?" I got scared, and thought- that was really dumb, Crystal. Why would you do that? But I said "equality for homosexuals" and everyone in that lab thought it was great.
I joined the church about 3 years later, in 2004. I did everything by the book for many of the years from 2004 on. I was told how to vote on the issue of marriage not once, not twice, but three times. The first time, I was really shocked, as the line separating church and state had clearly been breeched. I remember looking over my shoulder at the law student behind me and to my right, he didn't even blink an eye. I did though, I felt so conflicted. By the third time I heard the sentiment, I was more than just a little bothered. I started doing some research. Did you know there are numbers of gay students who have commit suicide at BYU? Probably not, those deaths are generally covered up. Did you know the church subscribed, to electric shock and vomit aversion therapy by a group created by the church called Evergreen International? The premise was showing gay and straight porn and when gay pornography was shown, the genitals were shocked or the person was induced to vomit? It is true, those things were done and I was deeply troubled.
I was also struggling with a couple other things as well, for sure. Then in Oct 2010, it was stated over the pulpit by one of the very top leaders in the church, that "being gay" was not natural, and it was impure and that a loving Heavenly Father would never "do that" to a person... Well, after that, it was over a year before I would really go to church again. I went a week here, then there for another 3 months, then I stopped totally for several months. I do not agree with that statement. It is wrong. As a scientist, I saw many homosexual behaviors in test animals, and it is actually quite genetically known, that mutations in specific genes induce homosexual behaviors.
http://neuroscientificallychallenged.blogspot.com/2008/07/bisexuality-in-drosophila.html
and this one, talks about the neural circuits in such:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2196133/
Sure, humans have the ability to make decisions, but who we are attracted to, just is not up to us. I tried to like a few boys back in the day because they were just so fun, or witty or smart that were just more unattractive to me (as compared to the cutie I married), and it was just no good. Being told you MUST like women when attracted to men would be brutal. I am very straight. Very. I just do not feel it is ok to press my "normal" persuasions on people who are attracted to the same sex.
There are many in the church who have committed to being married to an opposite gender, had babies with them, then left after a decade or so, realizing the havoc they were wreaking to "who" they were and let's face it, no woman or man wants to be married to a person who is not attracted to them. However, we are told that gay marriage will destroy the family. I think that pretending to be straight until it hurts to much, leaving your children and marrying another person of the same gender is probably a bit more traumatic. Also, again, no one wants to be left by a person for someone of the opposite gender. That is so damaging.
Last month, a remarkable panel took place at BYU to standing-room-only.
This is a major step forward! I was very upset by the man married to a woman who thought it would be funny to mention his medicated wife's lack of libido meant he was now attracted to her more than she was to him- that is TERRIBLE! Their children will see that in print one day, rest-assured. In the meantime, the wife will see it out there for all the world to see, and so will all her friends and family.
It is good to be open about this, but to advocate straight marriage for gay people is disturbing.
The next day, this video was released (and it is AWESOME!)
So, when I realized, by very dear, personal friend Mitch Mayne, and another hero, Carol Lynn Pearson was coming to speak , I was onboard!
The day was amazing, as we went into the sanctuary, the feeling of heartache was deep and almost visible. There were many, many hurting gay men present. There were a few lesbians, and a couple straight allies. For sure, the most in attendence, were heart-broken men. Most of whom had been shunned by family, friends, and the church they had dedicated their entire lives to before coming out. It was a palpable feeling of sadness. We sang "Come, Come Ye Saints" and the voices made my heart so full. It was a by-and-large audience of men. I was so grateful to be part of that chorus.
First, Mitch talked about this idea that "being gay" is a test, but he turned the tables. He said, "maybe the test is not for us, but through us," He then asked "my straight brothers and sisters, will you love us, accept us, strengthen us and treat us as Christ would?" It made me cry. He then said "do not push us away from the One who loves us most." The way to accomplish this is by being kind, accepting, and loving. Just as we are asked to be. Mitch, I am there, buddy, I am your ally, I will be kind, loving, accepting and you do not have to worry about judgement from me, and really, that is the way it should be.
Then, Carol Lynn read this poem of hers, that also made me cry
Then, a men's chorus sang it, even now, the memory of the voices singing that song, makes me weep.
These lines... they make me weep.
I have packed the handcart again
Packed it with the precious things, and thrown away the rest
I will sing by the fires, out there on that uncharted ground...
...I will be alright, my people are mormon pioneers
She then spoke and told us to go to the basement and look at our foundations and make sure they are correct before using things like scripture to bolster our claims. Then pointed out the big sins generally attributed to be "anti-gay" in the scriptures where the pure text often refers to the worst sin as inhospitality (amen).
She was amazing.
We then had a break out session, and I got to hold a new baby for an hour and listen to men share about their experiences as spritual beings cast out by a church who did not want them. It was good to hear from others that wards in San Fracisco, and DC were welcoming openly gay individuals. Those present were asked to stay in the pews- and reactivate because there will be no change, if there are no people in the church who need change. I agree. Often, those making the rules, don't even know anyone who is gay (and amazing, spiritual, articulate, loving and looking for acceptance).
Katy shared and cried and was an instant hero. She is a strong, straight ally.
We had afternoon talks from a nun Jeannine Grammick who told us what helps and hurts. She has been active in the catholic church since 1971 building bridges and she is an absolute delight. I love her. She sat with me at dinner and we talked for over an hour.
Then a mom of a perfect son spoke about her experience when he told her he was gay- she was angry and confused and prayed and felt one thing- love him. And that has been her mission. She is in the video below.
Then, there was Julie Hunter (LOVE HER!) who introduced the video and talked about not wanting to come out because she was so upset on behalf of her parents.
| The amazing Julia |
I was at the front of the church and behind me, the weeping was overwhelming. There is so much hurt, friends. We must do something about this. It is not a choice and does not do anyone any good to act as if it is.
Finally, there was an open stories event and many got up and spoke, I was so touched, I could have stayed for days listening to them. I want to listen. I want to feel. I want to love. I want to help. I want to keep with this and not stop until acceptance is the norm, and not the exception.
I am so grateful to be able to help, even if it is just a little. What I can say, is the number of allies was so outnumbered by those affected, personally at this conference. Even so, we will carry on. We will bear some of that burden and we will love you for all the beautiful things you are. Thank you, Mitch, for being so strong. You have educated me. Thank you, John, for being the picture of grace and beauty a decade ago. Keep going. My job is to love. My job is to accept. My job is to help you on this journey of finding peace and hope.
I love you, even though I may not know you. Because I know your heart.
| Mitch and Carol Lynn |
| Mitch, Katy and Me |

13 comments:
I am crying again....i did not sleep last night for all the feelings....today i am just processing it all...coming back to earth...so grateful for you...and the experience.....
Marc's death was really sad.
http://www.metroweekly.com/news/?ak=2583
I still feel sad that they weren't able to marry.
I feel sad for anyone that judges homosexuals as unworthy of a religion, a marriage, anything that everyone else is entitled to.
This is a big issue for me. I'm glad that you don't tote the party line on this, Crystal. <3
Thank you for sending me the link, Stacey. That was perfect. It made me cry again. My heart is so tender right now.
I asked Matt to read this post yesterday (he is much, much more reserved on these issues, that is what happens when it is treated as right -v- wrong). I asked him to read it and all the links and videos. It took him over an hour, while I made dinner, dessert and played a bunch of games with Asher. When he was done reading, he was sobbing, his eyes were blood shot. He is getting it. It is easy to say no, and not think about it. It is much, much harder to listen to others, learn of their personal story, and let it sink in. That is the answer right there- listen to the stories- let them sink in. That is the only way for change to happen, because it changes hearts.
I really enjoyed this post. I found from the comment you left on CJane's page. I would really like to discuss with you more indepth. I have been battling how to handle the issue ever since I moved to college. I read some literature on the LDS website (I need to look up the exact link again) and I felt like it was saying to accept and love, but that the church as a whole does not condone acting upon those homosexual feelings. What I gathered from that is we accept their homosexuality but don't applaud them giving so much as a kiss to someone they like or love.
Maybe it is more complex than that but I would really like a discussion because most people around me are pretty single-minded and closed off about the issue.
I would love to hear your thoughts,
Chera
Chera, I will be in touch. It's a decisive issue, but to me, it smells a lot like the view of minorities... And womens issues in the church... I say if it's legal, how can a church have jurisdiction over marriage? It is legal in DC and a man I met this weekend was excommunicated on basis of his celibate engagement, because he "intended" to have sex. That's messed up, friend.
I wish I was in the "It Gets Better" video, but alas...I am not. I highly identify with the short haired blond mom who says, "WHO WOULD CHOOSE THIS?!!!", but it's not me. I'd love to find out who she is so that we could connect. I just love her enthusiasm!
Alanna
CMS, I love you for posting this! Straight Ally sister up here in Montana! Will you keep in touch with me about this? My dear friend Randall Thacker helped organize the conference and the one last year. I've been having babies and such so i haven't been able to go, but I am cheering him on from afar and it was so wonderful to find you and your perception of the conference. My heart is changing everyday and I know one thing for sure for sure that there is no room in the gospel of Jesus Christ for hate or exclusion. Like Nephi, I don't know the meaning of it all but I know for damn sure HE LOVETH HIS CHILDREN. God bless them for softening our hearts and calling us to love more like our Savior!!!! I am passing this link on to Randall...he will LOVE it!
I understand your point. I guess, right now, I am trying to work passed a different issue than gay marriage alone. Along the same logic, alcohol is legal but the church goes against its use. So, possibly if gay marriage was legal everywhere wouldn't the church still disagree with acting upon homosexual desires?
Again, I am really just trying to discuss my thoughts with others. I am not saying that I am right, I just want your opinion.
Jamie, Randall is such a great guy! I met him Saturday. I can tell you this: in that sanctuary, I felt the love of God for His children like I haven't felt it in a long, long time.
Chera, I think we need to think of this idea of homosexuality as a sin. Where did it originate? I've really really looked hard, and it's just not in the scriptures. Not even carefully worded. I think it is called a sin in the name of religious tradition. A generation ago, interracial marriage was treated as sinful. In fact, in Brigham Young's day, it was only "atoned" for by blood atonement- or murder on the spot.
Why are so many gay men and lesbian women being born into "perfect" LDS families? I don't think it's GMO food, or too much TV. I think it's where God wants them, to teach us what it means to have the pure love of Christ.
Thanks for commenting again, sweet friend.
PS- I don't know the answers either, it just feels so wrong to deny rights to these beautiful people. I will never, ever forget the feeling when the conference started. The room was filled with heart-broken people (mostly men) looking for love and acceptance. Who am I to judge another when I walk imperfectly?
You speak so eloquently and thoughtfully. I certainly don't have any answers, but I think you are creating a wonderful discussion to promote understanding. The judgment is not mine to make, I only need to love.
Thank you for being so understanding of my questions and thank you for your answers. I guess right now I will just listen to the prophets and apostles, unless otherwise noted :). I agree, I still do not understand the interracial issue but maybe that is only because I have not thought to look into it, lately.
You are so right when you say that they need loved. I have never been in a room full of the hurt but I have been in a room where the hurt from just one person struggling for acceptance was enough to keep me asking questions.
Thanks for the discussion.
The NT states that the church is a “schoolmaster to bring us to Christ,” but when has a teacher ever taught 100%, the absolute truth? When I look back at my school years, I have to laugh at some of the silly things they tried to jam down our throats. But never the less, they were in authority over us.
Lorenzo Snow said that he “Saw the prophet Joseph Smith do and say things that [he] never expected to see in a Prophet of God,” but that never once did he question or doubt the Prophets authority. (Brigham made a similar statement.)
And what is that authority? It is the RIGHT to administer, for right or wrong, the imperfect affairs of the Priesthood on earth. There has never been a perfect Prophet or administrator save Jesus Christ Himself. The Lord chooses the best he can find to fit the needs of the moment. That does not mean that those individuals are perfect in every respect—It just means they have some, (maybe only one) special ability that the Lord NEEDS in the administration of his Church and Kingdom. BKP, with all his faults AND righteous abilities DOES keep us on our toes. And apparently, according to the research of Gay Mormon Historian Michael Quinn, he exhibits the same faults and righteous abilities to his brethren in the councils of the Church. “There must needs be opposites in all things.”
But never forget that that Church does not exist in the Spirit World, neither will it exist in Eternity. If there is oppression, there is relief waiting.
Joseph taught that everyone who attains to the Priesthood in this life does so because it was given to him in premortality. Can that be taken away from you in this life? No. By excommunication the Church may remove their stamp of approval on priesthood actions in this life, but they cannot remove your priesthood or endowments. Please note that if you are reinstated in the Church after excommunication, you are NOT re-baptized or re-ordained or re-endowed, you are only reinstated into church fellowship and ecclesiastical approval.
In this life we are “Gods in training.” When we were born into this existence a veil was drawn over our minds to make us weak so we could learn lessons by experience. The ancient Prophet Ether said that the Lord gives us our weaknesses that we might become strong. BE STRONG, you don’t know what the Lord is trying to teach you. Just submit cheerfully to HIS lessons as you feel them in your heart. And try not to pass a harsh judgment on others, because you do not know the thickness of the veil that has been placed on their minds and what lessons they have to learn.
From a “straight” voice of reason, ThomasRRoper@aol.com
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